[MD] Pirsig/James connection

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Sep 14 08:38:38 PDT 2009



Thank you, John.  After all these years of trying to toughen up, all I could
hear was my mother's voice saying 'Now be nice...'.  Damn!    




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of John Carl
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:32 AM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Pirsig/James connection

Is a bummer tho.  Oh well, the MoQ is like a bus, if passengers get off,
another will come along in about 10 minutes.  Right?  I mean, Davids who
love W. James must be a dime a dozen, I've only been here a few months and
already TWO of 'em have been and gone.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:29 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:

> Marsha,
> Never apologize, never retract and never equivocate.  Get it done and let
> them howl.
>
> I read that quote from an English teacher somewhere once and it stuck with
> me.  (Maybe it easy Strunk and White's Elements of Style?)
>
> Anyway, please don't feel like shit.  If they can't take the thorns, they
> don't deserve the rose.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:12 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Please don't go...  I really, really, really apologize.  There are no
>> popes
>> or monks, and certainly no saints.  Your contribution IS important!!!
>> It's
>> important to the MoQ.  Geeeeezzz.  I feel like shit!
>>
>> Please don't go...
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David Thomas
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:03 AM
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Pirsig/James connection
>>
>> On 9/14/09 6:43 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > My opinions have often been ignored in this forum, and I've have never
>> > suffered from the neglect.  By all means, analyze the Pirsig/James
>> > connection to your hearts content.  I apologize for expressing an
>> opposing
>> > opinion.
>> >
>> >
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> Don't apologize. Actually upon a good night's sleep and a little
>> reflection
>> I really need to thank you. You were right, there are many high quality
>> things that I could and should be doing that I interrupted to jump back
>> into
>> this.
>>
>> There was concern early on in Lila Squad that the site would turn into a
>> fan
>> club or cult of celebrity. But I bet even RMP couldn't have foreseen that
>> books laced with philosophy would developed a cult-like following. Or
that
>> by railing against the "Church of Reason" while pointing to one of the
>> most
>> mystical and esoteric of the Eastern religions, Zen, would lead to a
whole
>> bunch of people who see the "Church of Unreason" as a viable religious
>> alternative.
>>
>> This site has always had a pattern of a few "priest or monks" with longer
>> experience validating the newcomer's hope that there really was something
>> more to RMP's work than a good read. It did that for me, and I assume
many
>> others. Pirsig pointed to two paths. Philosophy and Zen. Neither paths
are
>> simple or easy. Both together can be life consuming. It's no secret that
I
>> chose the philosophy path. A much easier path is to take the WORD of
>> Pirsig
>> on faith and proceed on. The Bible, Koran, and Pali Canon have all had
>> good
>> runs, why not ZMM?
>>
>> I'm out of here
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> PS: Bo, Congratulations on your elevation to Pope of The High Church of
>> Bob.
>> Keep the flock rounded up, saying their "Hail Lila's" their "Our Bob who
>> art
>> in heaven's...."and observant to the ZMM Canon. Bye-Bye.
>>
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