[MD] Uncertainty
Arlo Bensinger
ajb102 at psu.edu
Thu Sep 24 15:14:58 PDT 2009
[Platt]
Deos that mean that there will come a time when nothing exists?
[Arlo]
Nothing exists? Another splendid linguistic paradox! Who knows, maybe
something will exist, maybe not. XKCD has a relevant comic about
this... (http://xkcd.com/638/)... Will there come a time when human
perception will no longer be around? I'd say that's probable. I doubt
our species will survive our sun going all red giant on us...
Maybe... but doubtful...
[Platt]
So stability is permanent?
[Arlo]
Ah, recursion. Its fascinating... This is simply a restatement of the
Quined.... ""Nothing stays the same" stays the same".... Or ""There
are no facts" is a fact"... Shouldn't we be past this by now?
[Platt]
Seems the drift to nonexistence is permanent.
[Arlo]
Another restatement of "It's a fact there are no facts". The moment
you try to conceptualize in symbols this stuff, you bring the paradox
of recursion. I don't know what more I can say that this... Its not
anything new and exciting... ask Zeno... You are trying to make the
set contain itself. Can't be done without some paradox creeping in
somewhere... Would a real Zen Master just say "mu" to this? Perhaps...
[Platt]
Seems you assume time is permanent..
[Arlo]
Not in a million years (pun intended).
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