[MD] Boromir's Journey

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 26 16:24:47 PDT 2009


> steve: Faith: The notion that the world as it is now is perfect and that
> changing it would only ruin it.
> 
> gav: i disagree here. i would say that faith is implicitly aware that you can't ruin perfection - you can only peturb it. 

matt: yeah--you can't ruin _perfection itself_, that would be imperfect, but steve's point is that the notion that the world-is-a-perfection is the problem. that's why change is seen as bad, the perturbations as bad. and, along a different angle, not being able to actually effect a perfection--your point--breeds leibnizian thoughts of theodicy: this world is the best of all possible worlds, which voltaire laughed at as absurd and the rest of us should look at as a simplisitic apology of worseness that ameliorates the impetus to change it.

it punishes and supresses our DQ sense
 		 	   		  
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