[MD] a view

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed Apr 7 09:23:48 PDT 2010



I was thinking about the word 'kill' earlier.  I do think that 'kill' is a bit strong.  
It seems they die a natural death when you don't lift them into awareness;
they just kind of dissolve.  No act of violence required.




On Apr 7, 2010, at 11:59 AM, John Carl wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
> 
>> [Bo]
>> 
>> Because the 4th. level is both the springboard and the barrier to the MOQ.
>> 
>> [Arlo]
>> In the same way the social level is springboard and barrier to intellect?
>> Or the biological level is springboard and barrier to social patterns?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Hey, I like that you guys.  It is, of course, a restatement of the
> dynamic/static push/pull that occurs across levels, but "in the same way"
> points to the great usefulness of the levels in doing analogistic analysis.
> 
> 
> The one place this breaks down, imo, is the 4th level having no known upper
> boundary.  Intellect can theoretically pattern itself infinitely, which to
> my mind supports a spinozaist view of the cosmos where infinite mind
> transcends human experience, while being concurrently part and parcel of
> human experience.
> 
> This is also the only way it makes sense to "Kill all intellectual
> patterns".  That statement would be pure nihilism if it wasn't made in the
> faith of higher consciousness resurrecting new (and better)  intellectual
> patterns in the vaccum left.
> 
> Which must themselves be killed, and so on, in an infinite process of
> becoming.
> 
> There.  I think that is all that needs to be said.
> 
> John
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