[MD] A Science of Morals

John Carl ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Fri Apr 9 13:00:12 PDT 2010


As usual Ron, you made me stop and really think.

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Ian,
> which brings us back to the idea that science is a moral value.
>
>
When it comes down to my own personal experience, the most moral people I
know are science-oriented and the least moral are religion-oriented.

The science-oriented are kidlike and playful and full of wonder and easily
taken out of themselves by some intellectual pursuit or another.  Not all,
maybe.  But most that I can think of.

I've known some good religious people, but I've known a lot of bastards and
pedophiles and control freaks too.  More than seems statistically likely.
 Maybe that's because I went to a religious boarding school and got more
exposure to that narrow population, but I heard a guy on the radio once who
had called in to a talk show that was asking people about deadbeats, and
they guy said by far the worse were clergy, of all kinds.  They had a sort
of "you'll get paid when it's the lord's will" attitude that made it real
tough to get money out of them.




> I believe the charge that it is culturally dominated by objectivism
> is dissolving,
> -Ron
>
>

I think that the hard-line, "there's no such thing as values" stance has
been rotting for sometime and I do think Harris is at least a positive sign
of that rot.


Yah know, Royce put science as the highest of human moral endeavors.


John the shameless plugger



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