[MD] The Physics of Metaphysics

Ham Priday hampday1 at verizon.net
Sun Apr 11 21:57:16 PDT 2010


Hello Mary --


> The smaller the particles are that you can detect, the smaller the
> particles are that you detect - ad infinitum down the rabbit hole
> so to speak.  These physicists were basically predicting the failure
> of their own discipline to be able to ever achieve the absolute
> answers it seeks.
>
> In a previous post I made this statement.  What muddies the water
> between the Social Level and the Intellectual is the same thing that
> muddies it between the Social and the Biological; namely that all
> three exist thanks to Subject-Object Logic.  ...We are immersed
> in it and we owe it a great debt, but is it right?  Just because it is
> fundamental to biological survival, does it follow that that's the way
> the Universe really is?

Yes...because that's what existence is.  The universe is not Reality but a 
relational space/time system that is only our experiential representation of 
it.  The inter-level "muddied water" you refer to is not experiential 
because the levels are intellectual constructs (classifications of sensory 
data) rather than "experience" per se.  You express gratitude for 
"Subject-Object Logic", but you have left the cognitive self out of this 
analysis.  There would be no S/O or SOL (to use Bo's term) without 
subjective awareness.  You owe your thanks, not to S-O logic, but to the 
Uncreated Source which made you a free agent of value

I would argue that we are immersed in the value of Essence (Absolute 
Reality) which we experience as a physical universe (i.e., the world of 
appearances as viewed subjectively).  That these appearances constitute 
"objective reality" is a subjective precept that follows experience and 
involves intellection on the part of the observer.  Since the form and 
attributes of objects are constructed by the individual self 
(value-sensibility), it follows that the remainder of what you've written is 
true,

> The physicists were undeterred.  Though willing to admit the inadequacy
> of their area of science to achieve a fundamental understanding of the
> nature of the Universe, they could not offer another alternative to 
> reaching
> that understanding.  The science is good, the results valid and 
> verifiable,
> and many useful and interesting things are learned from it; yet following 
> that
> subject-object path to infinity will not result in ultimate answers - and
> even they are aware of that.
>
> We are all immersed in SOM and so believe it to be all there is.  But we
> are approaching the point in particle physics where SOM interpretations
> of the nature of the Universe are failing to provide the answers we seek.
> Instead of reassessing the validity of the SOM model, however, we are
> doggedly pursuing funding for ever bigger and more highly energetic
> accelerators in hopes of finding particles even more fundamental than
> those already discovered.
>
> We do not really believe that the Universe is made of Quality.  We pay
> lip service to this idea while continuing to build particle accelerators 
> in our
> backyard.  This is because SOM is in our DNA.  SOM (or more precisely
> SOL) is the engine for the Biological, Social, and Intellectual Levels. 
> The
> Intellectual Level is separated from the Social only by the nature of that
> which it values.  It is all SOL all the way down and we will be unable to
> understand the answers we seek, or even know the right questions to ask,
> until "the SOM/SOL veil is lifted from our eyes" as they say.

As long as we have eyes that see, and a brain that reasons, we shall only 
know reality as subject-object existence.  We may speculate, theorize, or 
logically postulate a greater Reality, but this will never be realized as 
direct knowledge or factual truth.

--Ham





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