[MD] The Physics of Metaphysics

[MarshaV]

On Apr 12, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Ham Priday wrote:

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> Hello Mary --
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>> The smaller the particles are that you can detect, the smaller the
>> particles are that you detect - ad infinitum down the rabbit hole
>> so to speak.  These physicists were basically predicting the failure
>> of their own discipline to be able to ever achieve the absolute
>> answers it seeks.
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>> In a previous post I made this statement.  What muddies the water
>> between the Social Level and the Intellectual is the same thing that
>> muddies it between the Social and the Biological; namely that all
>> three exist thanks to Subject-Object Logic.  ...We are immersed
>> in it and we owe it a great debt, but is it right?  Just because it is
>> fundamental to biological survival, does it follow that that's the way
>> the Universe really is?
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> Yes...because that's what existence is.  The universe is not Reality but a relational space/time system that is only our experiential representation of it.  The inter-level "muddied water" you refer to is not experiential because the levels are intellectual constructs (classifications of sensory data) rather than "experience" per se.  You express gratitude for "Subject-Object Logic", but you have left the cognitive self out of this analysis.  There would be no S/O or SOL (to use Bo's term) without subjective awareness.  You owe your thanks, not to S-O logic, but to the Uncreated Source which made you a free agent of value
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> I would argue that we are immersed in the value of Essence (Absolute Reality) which we experience as a physical universe (i.e., the world of appearances as viewed subjectively).  That these appearances constitute "objective reality" is a subjective precept that follows experience and involves intellection on the part of the observer.  Since the form and attributes of objects are constructed by the individual self (value-sensibility), it follows that the remainder of what you've written is true,
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Greetings Ham,

Pardon my interruption.   What posits a "cognitive self" and "Uncreated Source" 
other than the "experiential representation" formed by this "relational space/time 
system", or mental ignorance?   And it's this mental ignorance that creates and 
independent, objective reality and an independent, subjective observer or 
individual self.  


Marsha











 
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