[MD] MOQ would seems to imply that above human intelligence computers

[Horse]

You're missing the point Platt - if they are intelligent and thus have 
an intellectual level - they would have a social level. Pirsig's point 
about ants and bees etc. isn't relevant. If computers ever did become 
intelligent it would be through a different but analogous path.

On 15/04/2010 17:21, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> This is the notion that any old group constitutes a social level, a notion
> flatly denied by Pirsig:
>
> "One can also call ants and bees "social" insects, but for purposes of
> precision in the MOQ social patterns should be  defined as human and
> subjective.  Unlike cells and bees and ants they cannot be detected with
> an objective scientific instrument.  For example there is no objective
> scientific instrument that can distinguish between a king and commoner,
> because the difference is  social." (LC, Note 49)
>
> Regards,
> Platt
>
>
> On 15 Apr 2010 at 17:10, Horse wrote:
>
>    
>> But they wouldn't be destroying their own social level - they'd be
>> destroying ours. If they were intelligent and significantly different to
>> us their social level would remain intact. Why would they worry?
>>
>> On 15/04/2010 16:35, Platt Holden wrote:
>>      
>>> It would be just like intelligent computers to attain such a level of
>>> arrogance that they would believe they would be better off by eliminating
>>> the social level on which their existence depends.
>>> Reminds me of some intellectuals I know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Platt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Tudor Boloni<savetherich at gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> would be morally correct to kill us if they feel
>>>>
>>>> a) they will be able to contribute more ideas and intellectual patterns
>>>> than
>>>> human can achieve
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> b) they determine humans are eating up too many resources and produce too
>>>> few intellectual patterns for the expense
>>>>
>>>> am i missing something?
>>>>
>>>> tudor
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