[MD] re, fellow european-Bodvar
Horse
horse at darkstar.uk.net
Thu Apr 15 19:56:32 PDT 2010
Very interesting Platt.
This is what you want to return to isn't it:
Before Wilson’s time academicians had been minor and peripheral within
the Victorian
power structure. Intelligence and knowledge were considered a high
manifestation of social
achievement, but intellectuals were not expected to run society itself.
They were valued servants
of society, like ministers and doctors. They were expected to decorate
the social parade, not lead
it. Leadership was for practical, businesslike “men of affairs.”
And this is what you hate:
Few Victorians suspected what was coming: that within a few years the
intellectuals they idealized as the best representatives of
their high culture would turn on them and destroy that culture with
contempt.
How dare these servants, these Intellectual traitors not know their
place in society!
Shame on the intellect that it should seek independence from social
dominance.
And shame on Pirsig for producing a philosophical position that
justifies everything that you hate.
On 16/04/2010 02:33, plattholden at gmail.com wrote:
> The left-wing attitude, well represented here, is that the academy is the
> exclusive domain of intellectualism. Such an attitude is laughable on its
> face. What's more, anti-intellectualism is the theme of Chapters 22 and
> 24 of Lila, a theme which Pirsig sums up neatly in saying, "It was this
> intellectual level that was screwing everything up." To ignore the damage
> intellectuals have done to society in modern times is to ignore one of the
> main messages of the MOQ. So don't give me all this cheering for
> academic intellectuals. I agree with Pirsig that they are much more a
> problem than a solution.
>
> Platt
>
> On 15 Apr 2010 at 16:06, david buchanan wrote:
>
>
>> dmb says:
>> There are some good reasons to complain about "the academy" and
>> "philosophology" and then there are bad reasons to complain. The
>> biggest, baddest reason is just ordinary, right-wing anti-intellectualism.
>> That's not even a reasoned position. It's just an attitude.
>>
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