[MD] MOQ would seem to imply that above human intelligencecomputers

[Joseph Maurer]

On 4/18/10 12:05 PM, "Mary" <marysonthego at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mary and all,

³What is consciousness?²

Imho it¹s a pile. DQ/SQ a description of evolution suggested by Pirsig to
describe a metaphysics of the undefined/defined logic.

The defined for me is best described in a hierarchy in existence called
evolution:  

1. Inorganic,
2. Organic life 1: reproduction by cell-splitting,
3. Organic life 2: reproduction by penetration of the egg-call wall by a
sperm-cell  

The undefined DQ for me is best described as evolution, a hierarchy in
existence of a further evolution of undefined consciousness in the case of a
sentient being (self-awareness).

4. DQ Consciousness evolves to an emotional/social level DQ only.
5. DQ Consciousness evolves to an intellectual level DQ/SQ.
6. DQ Consciousness evolves to a higher-emotional level, DQ only.
7. DQ Consciousness evolves to a higher-intellectual level, DQ only.  (The
last two levels are the high country of Heroes.) Esoteric literature is the
basis of this schema for evolution.

Joe


> What is consciousness?  Is it self-awareness?  If so, that would imply ego.
> So, one could say that any entity that achieves the concept of ego is
> self-aware and thus conscious. No?  At various times in my life I've been
> given a paycheck to be a programmer.  Now all of those jobs are being
> off-shored to India or China, but that is beside the point.  Does anyone
> have an "ego object" in their Java toolkit (my preferred language since it
> has automatic garbage collection, and is also platform independent in its
> own little JVM)?  Is it open-source?  Can I download it somewhere?  We
> programmers really hate reinventing the wheel, you know.
> 
> Mary
> 
> - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.
> 
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