[MD] Intellect? Never.

[Jon Bennett]

Hi John,
I'm in the process of writing a book as well. In fact, Pirsig's style has
been a strong influence on my style.

If it were not a copyright violation I would call it Zen, The Cross, and
Motorcycle Maintenance. He has left out a view.

Other possible titles are The Cross, The Clock, the Lotus, but probably, The
Cross, the Clock, The Circle.

Pirsig has overlooked a view. Yes, we need a new paradigm. But he has not
"transcended the opposites", even the opposites of the Enlightenment and
Romanticism which are reflected in the Title-Zen representing the Romantic
roots and influences of nature worship and a nature based system of belief,
and MM, representing the world view of modern science and the Enlightenment.

As I tried to make the case on the Roots thread, he does not transcend these
views, but is viewing reality from the Romantic perspective-which was all
about transcending opposites as well.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:43 AM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jon B,
>
> Philosophy 101 - Know Thyself.  You say Pirsig fails at this task.  I'd
> like
> to know how you reach that conclusion.  He wrote a whole book objectifying
> himself as Phaedrus, analyzing his motivations and premises and reaching a
> conclusion that overthrows his own metaphysical basis.
>
> What more can a guy do?
>
> John C.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Jon Bennett <jonbenn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Sometimes philosophers don't understand the implications, or even the
> core
> > assumptions of their own ideas. This is very common in the history of
> > philosophy, with one philosopher decrying the way he is grouped or
> > classified, or the uses made of their philosophy.
> >
> > Sometimes they are right. Sometime they don't see the larger trend that
> > they
> > are a part of, or the fuller implications or the erroneuous assumptions
> of
> > their thought. This, I believe, is the case with with Pirsig.
> >
> > Be Sweet,
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