[MD] Reading & Comprehension

david buchanan dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 24 10:24:02 PDT 2010


Bodvar said:
Need I spoon-feed you weak-interpreters? (*) In a ZAMM context Socrates represents SOM's independence from the Arete past, here he is said to represents the intellectual level's independence of its social origin  (all levels have their origin in the former level). Without resorting to smoke-screens, how is this glaring fact explained?


dmb says:

Here you have a major misconception sandwiched between two insults. Between the spoon-feeding and the smoke-screens, you're equating Arete with social static patterns. Arete is not social and it's not patterned either. In the context of ZAMM, the Arete that was lost was the Dharma, the Quality that the Sophists were teaching. 

While it certainly is true that the static intellectual level was separating from the static social level in this same historic period, this is not to be confused with the loss of dynamic quality. 

Sadly, Bo, your interpretation of the MOQ is "riddled" with such misconceptions. In fact, another related mistake springs to mind. Pirsig refers to Quality (DQ) and the "pre-intellectual" reality. You repeatedly take this as a reference to social static patterns. Because they evolved prior to intellect, you figure, social patterns are "pre-intellectual". What it actually refers to is the cutting edge of experience, the front edge of each moment, the eternal present. In other words, the pre-intellectual reality is Dynamic Quality, not social static quality. 

In both cases, these are misconceptions about the central term in Pirsig's work. And so your theory is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong. It undermines and destroys the main point of the MOQ, to improve the intellect at its roots by introducing Quality as a working concept in Art, Science and Religion. Your SOL is profoundly unhelpful toward that effort. Plus it doesn't makes any sense.


 		 	   		  
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