[MD] Buddhism's s/o

[MarshaV]

John,

What do you mean by religious thinking?  I have told you 
I am quite comfortable with the Tom Robbins quote.  

   
Marsha
   


On Apr 28, 2010, at 12:15 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Marsha the evasive,
> 
> 
>> 
>>> The first question is:
>>> 
>>> Have you Marsha, ever considered the GOOD effects of
>>> overcoming religious thinking in your intellectual development?
>> 
>> Consider?  Do you mean systematically, like reading the Great Books?
>> No, I've never formally considered my intellectual development.
>> 
>> 
> Me neither.  I bought a set at a yard sale.  Cheap.  And often thought about
> reading them.
> 
> That's what I call intellectual development, thinking about thinking about
> thinking.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> The second is related:
>>> 
>>> Whether or not  the passing on of this pattern to our children is
>> "giving
>>> them the answer" without letting them work it out for themselves and thus
>> a
>>> sort of intellectual crippling with unforseen results?
>> 
>> "The social values are right only if the individual values are right.
>> The place to improve the world is first in one's own heart and
>> head and hands, and then work outward from there. Other
>> people can talk about how to expand the destiny of mankind.
>> I just want to talk about how to fix a motorcycle. I think that what
>> I have to say has more lasting value."
>> (ZMM, Chapter 25)
>> 
>> 
> well obviously the author talked about a lot more than merely fixing
> motorcycles.  I'd say for starters he's talking about talking about fixing
> motorcycles in the passage quoted.
> 
> If he'd really just "wanted" to talk about motorcycles then he'd have done
> so exclusively.
> 
> And all those confused book store clerks and librarians who stocked ZAMM on
> the auto maintenance sections wouldn't have been so far off.
> 
> But you know all that.  You're just being evasive.  You're fully aware that
> the motorcycle under discussion is the motorcycle known as your intellectual
> self.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I admit its a tricky question  but no psychological manipulation is
>>> intended.
>> 
>> Maybe you think I'll be more, um, um, receptive?
>> 
>> 
> 
> That was my ploy.  I see it won't work.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Just a simply enquiry into social and intellectual values, is all.
>>> 
>>> Love,
>> 
>> Am I suppose to be able to resist love?
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Where there's life there's choice.  Where there's choice there's hope.
> Where there's hope there's love.
> 
> So no, I guess you weren't.
> 
> But please feel free.
> 
> Nobody ever accused me of confusing my is and my ought!
> 
> 
> And now I'll leave you alone from my pesky questions before you have to say
> "fuck your questions!"
> 
> Admiringly,
> 
> John
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