[MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment
david buchanan
dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 28 12:46:28 PDT 2010
Thanks, Andre. That's a nice way to put it. In some broad sense, we could say that overcoming the blind spot to DQ in our culture would serve the cause of feminism. I realize that sounds like some kind of joke, but I'm not kidding.
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:43:21 +0200
> From: andrebroersen at gmail.com
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment
>
> Jon to dmb:
>
> In Christianity, Christ is the Logos, the Logos who became flesh and dwelt
> among us. The book of John opens with 'In the beginning was the logos, and
> the logos was with God and the logos was God.
>
> Andre:
> And Jesus was begotten by Mary, in mythology (read Campbell's Masks of God') commonly identified with the aesthetic, emotional female principle. Plato 'arbitrarily' branded this female principle as 'evil' and the male, rational principle as 'good'. In Pirsig's words Plato had 'encapsulated' it. 'Consequently, it is to this rational factor termed, God the Father, that the Divine (read Quality/the Good)is restricted in the orthodox Christian religion of the West, whether Catholic or Protestant'( Northrop, p59).
>
> And it was under this guise that the old church fathers had demoted Mary, not according her 'divine' status in her own right but only according her this status as mediated through her son, the rational principle. Encapsulated by Plato and cemented-in by Aristotle. (Thomism)
>
> Pirsig has described the devastating effect this has had upon our understanding of nature's order and goes on to argue that: '...it's time to further an understanding of nature's order by reassimilating those passions which were originally fled from. The passions, the emotions, the affective domain of man's consciousness,[the 'female aesthetic principle] are a part of nature's order too'. (ZMM,p294)
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> The rational principle, (the 'Christ'/ Truth) is a species of the Good, ('Mary' the aesthetic, emotional female principle).
>
> Once this is properly understood and rectified (as in the MOQ)according each their proper status (the rationally postulated and the immediately apprehended) we can move a little closer to understanding the 'Eastern' religions. Once the latter understand the rational/theoretical, postulated principle we can move toward mutual understanding.
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> I doubt if we can expect this to come from within the Christian church itself. They have too much to lose and will carry on their static, deceptive and abusive, narrow minded practices. And not just targeting innocent 5-year olds.
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