[MD] Buddhism's s/o

[MarshaV]

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On Apr 29, 2010, at 5:40 AM, X Acto wrote:

> no, it's the words of a westerner  (Peter D. Santina,)
> not the Buddha, the teaching.
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> I see no evidence 
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> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
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> That's the Buddha, the teaching.    
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> On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:33 PM, X Acto wrote:
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>> sounds like nothing but an objective opinion about the teachings of the buddha
>> not the buddha
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 4:12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Buddhism's s/o
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>> To recap why I think Buddhism cannot be used as an exception to 
>> the Intellectual Level being SOM, I offer these to quotes that indicate
>> that Buddhism used logic and the scientific method for an objective
>> study of 'Mind'.  
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>> "... So at the beginning, in the middle and at the end of the Buddha's path, 
>> observation plays an extremely important role.  This is similar to the role that 
>> objective observation plays in the scientific tradition which teaches that when 
>> we observe a problem we first formulate a general theory followed by specific 
>> hypothesis. We find the same thing happening in the teaching of the Four 
>> Noble Truths and here the general theory is that all things have a cause, 
>> and the specific hypothesis is that the causes of suffering are craving and 
>> ignorance."
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>> "  Experience in Buddhism is comprised of two components - the objective 
>> component and the subjective component.  In other works, the things around 
>> us and we the perceivers.  Buddhism is noted for its analytical method in the 
>> area of philosophy and psychology.  What we mean by this is that the Buddha 
>> analyzes experience into various elements, the most basic of these being the 
>> five Skandhas or aggregates - form, feeling, perception, mental formation or 
>> volition and consciousness.  The five aggregates in turn can be analyzed 
>> into the eighteen elements (Dhatus) and we have a still more elaborate 
>> analysis in terms of seventy two elements.  This method is analytical 
>> as it breaks up things.  We are not satisfied with a vague notion of experience, 
>> but we analyze it, we probe it, we break it down into its component parts like 
>> we break down the chariot into the wheels, the axle and so on.  And we do 
>> this in order to get an idea how things work. When we see for instance a 
>> flower, or hear a piece of music, or meet a friend, all these experiences 
>> arise as a result of components.  This is what is called the analytical approach.  
>> And again this analytical approach is not at all strange to modern science and 
>> philosophy."
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>>   (Peter D. Santina, 'Fundamentals of Buddhism',BAUS)
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