[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Hi Marsha,

When it comes to social-spovs, remember the Giant that "worked with an 
intelligence of its own that was way beyond the intelligence of any 
person." (Lila, 5)  

Platt


On 30 Apr 2010 at 4:43, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> Platt & Bo,
> 
> Now you two have me confused.  I understand it to be that
> the Social Level is made of social-spovs, and the Intellectual 
> (SOM) Level is made up of intellectual-spovs, and the Biological 
> Level was made up of biological-spovs, etc., and that ALL 
> patterns are conceptual.  
> 
> Wow!  What a mess.   
> 
> 
> Marsha
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> On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:18 AM, skutvik at online.no wrote:
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> > Platt, Horse, Group.
> > 
> > 29 Apr.Platt said to Horse:
> > 
> >> Your wish is my command. Again, you conflate intellectual patterns of
> >> value with the intellectual level. The two are separate concepts
> >> (thoughts, ideas).  Intellectual patterns of value is a broad concept
> >> that includes all sorts of ideas other than SOM that were used to find
> >> food, detect danger and defeat enemies, most of them having to with
> >> the activities of various Gods and spirits. So intellectual (thought)
> >> patterns certainly did exist prior to SOM which wasn't a prominent
> >> concept until the ancient Greeks came up with the idea.
> > 
> > Great show Platt, this and your previous posts, I must limit myself and 
> > have been busy with DMB and his "bulldog" Andre, but you made my 
> > day. The MOQ must sooner or later get out of "intellect's" grip i.e. that 
> > of conflating thinking - intelligence - with the 4th. level - but from the 
> > intense "flak" it will probably be later..   
> > 
> >> As for your final question, SOM didn't create the intellectual level.
> >> A man named Pirsig did. Before him there was no "intellectual level"
> >> as such.
> > 
> > I'll have to study Horse's argument to comment this. The MOQ is a 
> > new reality and it's not easy to sort out the steps toward it. There is the 
> > Phaedrus of ZAMM view and there is the author of ZAMM's view, then 
> > there is the horse-MOQ (horse-latin) view and finally the MOQ's view 
> > that you promote.
> > 
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