[MD] Reading & Comprehension
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Fri Apr 30 08:28:59 PDT 2010
On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:
> Marsha to Horse ;
>
> I still understand the Intellectual Level to represent a formalized
> subject/object (SOM) manipulation of abstract symbols, whether
> they are concepts such as justice, neutrinos, or energy.
>
> Andre:
> Direct experience formalizes nothing Marsha.
I haven't the slightest idea what you're getting at with this sentence.
> The MOQ invites the analysis of your own experience. Remember in ZMM the relationship between the mechanic and the motorcycle?
The MoQ is both 1.) a intellectual pattern explained by ZMM and LILA, and 2. a designation for Reality = Quality.
> The subject here and the motorcycle there and never the twain shall meet ( in SOM!!!).
Yes, the subject/object thinking is dualistic, and SOM is a formalized representation of subject/object thinking.
> The MOQ allows you a different, more empirically real experience whereby the 'distance' between subject and object, in the direct experience is nullified. The gap is maintained by Bodvar's SOL and this view is detrimental to the MOQ.
An understanding of Reality = Quality = (unpatterned experience & patterned experience). I don't think you understand Bo's point-of-view enough to say that it is a detriment to the MoQ. I am much more interested in the nature of all patterns, than the levesl, and not so much in your rantings.
> Christ, I thought you had learned something from Pirsig, James, Krishnamurti, Najarguna, Buddhism etc,etc!...and your own meditative practices.
What you think I've learned is not very important to me.
> The farther you go away from DQ the more divisions you'll encounter.
Here, I agree with you.
Marsha
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