[MD] Bo's right! For all the wrong reasons? (Part1)

[David Thomas]

Hi Bo, All

> This may deviate from Pirsig,...

....you also deviate from Pirsig's MoQ because it, as laid out in Lila, is
his creation. But that's OK. As the subject line says "Bo's right". I now
agree with you Pirsig's MoQ has fatal problems. The quote from the Paul
Turner letter is just icing on the cake and needs to be reposted:

>     Another subtler confusion exists between the word, "intellect,"
>     that can mean thought about anything and the word,
>     "intellectual," where abstract thought itself is of primary
>     importance. Thus, though it may be assumed that the
>     Egyptians who preceded the Greeks had intellect, it can be
>     doubted that theirs was an intellectual culture.

This is pure rhetorical double talk by someone caught with his pants down.
He was and is faced with evolutionary facts that threaten to discredit his
entire system. Subtle my ass, it borders on intellectual dishonesty. There
are literally thousands of essays and books by philosophers from Aristotle
on down that deal with the "intellect" specifically as a separate, distinct,
abstract type of thought. Intellect is a distinct QUALITY of thought.
 

You have always claimed that Pirsig's MoQ was screwed up and now after 15
years you have convinced me. Thank You. The only difference in our positions
is that you think it is salvageable by your modifications to the
intellectual level and I don't think it's salvageable at all. But that's a
good thing, at least for me. I learned a lot here, I no longer have to beat
my head against the wall trying to understand a untenable theory, and I can
move on.

Thanks again. It's been great talking with all of you.

Thanks Horse, for your stellar efforts.

Dave