[MD] Bo's right! For all the wrong reasons? (Part1)
Mary
marysonthego at gmail.com
Tue Aug 3 18:41:21 PDT 2010
Hi Dave,
If you saw my other post you know that I too have big problems with Pirsig.
We doubtless disagree about what those problems are, but can agree that they
are legion. Take care.
Go Hogs!
Mary
>
> Hi Bo, All
>
> > This may deviate from Pirsig,...
>
> ....you also deviate from Pirsig's MoQ because it, as laid out in Lila,
> is
> his creation. But that's OK. As the subject line says "Bo's right". I
> now
> agree with you Pirsig's MoQ has fatal problems. The quote from the Paul
> Turner letter is just icing on the cake and needs to be reposted:
>
> > Another subtler confusion exists between the word, "intellect,"
> > that can mean thought about anything and the word,
> > "intellectual," where abstract thought itself is of primary
> > importance. Thus, though it may be assumed that the
> > Egyptians who preceded the Greeks had intellect, it can be
> > doubted that theirs was an intellectual culture.
>
> This is pure rhetorical double talk by someone caught with his pants
> down.
> He was and is faced with evolutionary facts that threaten to discredit
> his
> entire system. Subtle my ass, it borders on intellectual dishonesty.
> There
> are literally thousands of essays and books by philosophers from
> Aristotle
> on down that deal with the "intellect" specifically as a separate,
> distinct,
> abstract type of thought. Intellect is a distinct QUALITY of thought.
>
>
> You have always claimed that Pirsig's MoQ was screwed up and now after
> 15
> years you have convinced me. Thank You. The only difference in our
> positions
> is that you think it is salvageable by your modifications to the
> intellectual level and I don't think it's salvageable at all. But
> that's a
> good thing, at least for me. I learned a lot here, I no longer have to
> beat
> my head against the wall trying to understand a untenable theory, and I
> can
> move on.
>
> Thanks again. It's been great talking with all of you.
>
> Thanks Horse, for your stellar efforts.
>
> Dave
>
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