[MD] MOQ Recursion

[MarshaV]

Ron,

I am most certainly NOT suggesting that DQ is a fifth level, and 
neither is Bo. 


Marsha




On Aug 8, 2010, at 12:13 PM, X Acto wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Arlo said:
> ... Marsha and Bo are adding a new metaphysical entity to Pirsig's ideas, 
> suggesting that in addition to DQ and SQ there is something called "labels" or 
> "levels" that are neither DQ nor SQ (patterns of value) but something else. Or 
> like Mary, they will say the "level" itself is a "pattern of value" but refuse 
> to specify which type, suggesting then there are five types of patterns of 
> value; inorganic, biological, social, intellectual and this other kind that is 
> none of these but is still a "pattern of value".
> 
> Ron:
> That is just what is being done Arlo, by making DQ a fifth level. 
> 
> Which, in so many words, is a rejection of explanations.
> 
> kinda The Ellen Jamesions of the forum.
> 
> The irony
> It is used as a rhetorical device, a jabberwocky of sorts.
> 
> They just feel that way, accept it.
> 
> They don't need reasons! thats so SOM!
> 
> it's outside intellect, it makes no sense.
> 
> Is'nt it brilliant? 
> 
> "...patterns of value are divided into four systems: inorganic patterns, 
> biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual patterns. They are 
> exhaustive. That's all there are. If you construct an encyclopedia of four 
> topics - inorganic, biological, social and intellectual - nothing is left out. 
> No 'thing', that is. Only Dynamic Quality, which can not be described in any 
> encyclopaedia is absent." (Robert Pirsig, LILA, p.149 or first page of chapter 
> 12)
> 
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