[MD] MOQ Recursion
ARLO J BENSINGER JR
ajb102 at psu.edu
Sun Aug 8 16:19:37 PDT 2010
[Bo]
To ask what type of pattern a rock is and not being satisfied with it being
"static inorganic value" reveals that you are on the intellectual level and ask
about some "nature" other than value.
[Arlo]
Bo, Bo, Bo... I am satisfied with that answer. Okay, a rock is "static
inorganic value". I get that. Now, what type of static value is the "inorganic
level" itself? Inorganic? Biological? Social? Intellectual? Other?
[Bo]
But you forget that this ordering of things is part and parcel of the MOQ.
[Arlo]
So the Metaphysics of Quality is neither static quality nor Dynamic Quality,
right, so you are creating a third metaphysical category, saying that "reality"
is composed of DQ/SQ/Metaphysics of Quality.
[Bo]
Who asks about levels and patterns "themselves" except Arlo.
[Arlo]
People interested in more than propping up failed "theses" by sticking one's
head in the sand...
[Bo]
No level at all unless you make language a metaphysical entity and THAT you
obviously do.
[Arlo]
So language is NOT a metaphysical entity? By this do you mean it is NOT a
pattern of value of any sort?
[Bo]
The MOQ isn't above its levels, it contains the levels.
[Arlo][
Right, you are creating a third metaphysical category, because obviously here
there are more things than DQ and SQ, there is "metaphysics" that is neither
but something else entirely.
[Bo]
No, as said above, the Quality ordering and the MOQ is identical. It has
devoured your old SOM from where you cook up all these weird "problems"
[Arlo]
Interestingly, the only "problems" afoot exist in your creation of a third
metaphysical category. But again, you are saying (to be clear) the Metaphysics
of Quality is NOT a pattern of value at all. What is its relationship to
Quality? Identical?
[Bo]
In SOM (and Socrates was the chief SOM instigator) this may be so. In one way
seen - materialism - nothing is analogies, but from its idealism everything is
just .. language, analogies, hot air .. but the MOQ is supposed to have
transcended SOM.
[Arlo]
So you are saying "everything is an analogy, except the Metaphysics of
Quality", is this correct?
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