[MD] Krimel's evolution

Krimel Krimel at Krimel.com
Wed Aug 11 10:28:23 PDT 2010


[John]
Trying to find a thread I'd posted that Matt asked, poking in the archives,
I found some damn fine writing from Krimel, that explained a lot.  Thought
it was worth re-posting, considering his recent explanation of goals:

[Krimel]
Thanks John, I'd forgotten that but then I have forgotten most everything. I
don't know what it is you found explained in that. What I got from rereading
it was a sense of the overpowering frustration that unfortunately has
colored a lot of my writing here. I guess it's easy to see that venom in
much of my current writing is just a continuation of venom inspired by the
same tired arguments being hashed and rehashed. Lately I have taken to
lashing out at Pirsig for the weird interpretations others place on him. I
think this would be completely unfair if Pirsig had not more or less put his
personal seal of approval on some of the distortions propagated in his name.
I am less offended by his denial of Bo than by his approval of dmb.

The offense as I have mentioned, even recently, comes from the way I see dmb
and the AWGI's approach turning the MoQ away from being a metaphysics that
directly engages and enters into the flow of modern thinking. I see him
moving it backwards toward some ancient ways of seeing (i.e. the perennial
philosophy, philosophical mysticism...) that are valuable in some vague
sense but next to useless for any kind of present day application outside of
stress management.

In a recent example I said something to the effect that the MoQ ought to be
able to anticipate something like AI or some of the other things I mentioned
from the transhumanism summit. This got taken to mean I was down on Pirsig
for not being psychic when in fact what I was getting at was that if the MoQ
is seen in the right light, things like AI and nanotechnology are not
platypi. They should not present any challenge to the MoQ rather the MoQ
should help us accommodate such novelties without a problem. 

In fact I see one of the greatest challenges of our age as the rapid
revolutions in thinking and understanding that happen all the time in the
modern world. With the right metaphysics we ought to be able to take these
changes in concepts and consciousness in stride rather than having some kind
of intellectual revolution going on every six months or so. Furthermore I
think this is critical because by all accounts the pace of change is
speeding up not slowing down. 

I fear the wistful thinking about the glories of the past or a luddite
approach to technology and change are not very effective ways of dealing
with experience as it presents itself and I think hitching the MoQ wagon to
ancient dead horses is a sure fire way to remain antiquated without even
bothering to spin your wheels. The mystery to me has always been why anyone
would think this is a good plan.





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