[MD] MOQ Recursion

Magnus Berg McMagnus at home.se
Wed Aug 11 23:56:05 PDT 2010


Hi Platt

"Platt Holden" <plattholden at gmail.com> wrote:
>Correction. The SOL not only comes from Bo but from me, Marsha, Mary and
>other contributors over the years.

Really? There's quite a difference between originated and endorsed.

> The stack idea has hardly caught on. It
>may mean a lot to you, but I don't see many others using it to explain
>anything of significance.

As I said to Mary the other day, I would happily live without stacks, because I already see both cities and cells as social value. It's only useful to make people see how general the MoQ really is, that a city of people and a city of organelles are built by the same type of value.

On the other hand, it seems I've underestimated some people's narrow-mindedness.

> But be that as it may, the number of people who
>agree on an interpretation is irrelevant to its validity. Truth is not a
>matter of majority vote. Heaven forbid we ever come to a place where only
>one right way to think is permitted.

Hmm, let's see who you should direct that to. I acknowledge, and have always done so, the human social value of human societies, and also the transition from socially controlled societies to intellectually controlled ones, and of course such societies are more moral than socially controlled. Bo, and many others, do *not* acknowledge that cells, nor collections of cells, are controlled by social value. Neither do they think that such a collection called an animal can transition into being controlled by intellectual value using a brain.

Those two types of societies can be expressed as two different stacks, or truths if you like. So, one stack's truth is that human societies are controlled by social or intellectual value, the other stack's truth is that cell societies are controlled by social or intellectual value.

So there you have it. Stacks support multiple truths as well. The main difference between Bo and me is that Bo refuses to leave his stack, whereas I can move freely between the stacks/truths.

    Magnus







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