[MD] now it comes

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Thu Aug 12 11:22:27 PDT 2010


Krimel,

I visualize a pattern of value like a galaxy, where the most commonly 
shared aspect of a pattern are clustered more densely in the middle, 
while the less commonly held aspects of the pattern, for whatever 
reason, are on the peripheral.  


Marsha 





On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:50 PM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Krimel,
> 
> 
> This is my favorite thing to think about.  A pattern, to my understanding, is held 
> only in bits and pieces in a single individual, making it definitely relative.  A 
> pattern has breadth and depth, as in its past existence and across many, many 
> individuals.  It does not exist in its entirety within one mind as a fully formed 
> concept, but is, indeed, a collective, pattern of value. 
> 
> What do you think about this assessment? 
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Krimel wrote:
> 
>> Marsha:
>> Just for the record, is a pattern a definition, or compilation of 
>> definitions, or something else?   
>> 
>> [Krimel]
>> Bertrand Russell once claimed that the only label he had ever applied to
>> himself was "philosophical atomist". He thought that philosophers argued
>> about the meaning of terms until they got to a point where argument could
>> not provide an answer. The points that elude definition and agreement are
>> philosophical atoms.
>> 
>> I think that "pattern" is an "atom" for you the way I fear "meaning" is an
>> atom for me. It is a concept so fundamental it becomes one of those
>> transparent assumptions that we live by but can't adequately account for.
>> 
>> In my world "pattern," of necessity, involves some kind of persistent
>> temporal relationship. At pattern can be "constant" in time, like celestial
>> orbits, or repeated in time like thunder storms, or replicated or iterated
>> in time, like DNA.
>> 
>> Psychologically speaking, (what else did you expect?) life is a system of
>> pattern recognition. All life proceeds by using patterns to maximize
>> meaning. All living things in some sense are engines of pattern recognition.
>> We are designed to know good from bad and how to approach or avoid.
>> 
>> It is that fundamental, irreducible, philosophical atom: the valence of plus
>> and minus, good and bad; that drive life and the evolution of life.
>> 
>> Pattern recognition, the ability to detect similarity are well as
>> difference, allows us to reduce the uncertainty of DQ and create meaning or
>> SQ.
>> 
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