[MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sun Aug 15 07:54:30 PDT 2010


Greetings Dave,

Value patterns are not a special category of things, they are all that 
we know.  They have been divided into four levels determined by 
their type - inorganic, biological, social & intellectual - and placed in 
a  evolutionary, hierarchical order starting with, I guess, the big bang.  

I'm not getting your indignation...   


Marsha 





On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:30 AM, David Thomas wrote:

> Marsha,
> 
> If you are going to disconnect "evolution" as having anything to do with the
> now dead human Darwin, his theory, animals such as the squirrel currently
> setting on my deck rail eating an acorn or me, and instead claim that
> "evolution" is only something the philosophical theory called the MoQ does
> you are in a supra-natural world I have no experience or knowledge of. Just
> like I have no experience with or knowledge of God.
> 
> But I will defend your right to believe in that supra-natural world as long
> a you don't try to force me to genuflect to some MoQ icon in your garden.
> 
> Dave
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:49 AM, David Thomas wrote:
>> 
>>> Morning Marsha,
>>> 
>>>> The MoQ is not about human
>>>> animals, but static patterns of value, and the evolution that the MoQ
>>>> references is the evolution of static patterns of value..
>>> 
>>> You are absolutely right. It is a perfectly acceptable and reasonable to
>>> translate Pirsig's work as a religious tract. A Qualia Sutra. Quality is
>>> Anti-God. There are literally thousands of people who believe that
>>> metaphysics and religions are cut out of the same cloth. As long as you
>>> check your rationality at the door and just believe.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>> 
>> Greetings Dave,
>> 
>> Oh, you are going use the Arlo ploy.  When you cannot get
>> agreement start accusing your opponent of turning Quality
>> into God or the MoQ into a religion.  Baloney!
>> 
>> The evolution that the MoQ references is the evolution of
>> static patterns of value.  If you do not understand this, its
>> back to kindergarten for you ;-)
>> 
>> Marsha  
>> 
>> 
>> 
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