[MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sun Aug 15 09:21:49 PDT 2010


On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Thomas wrote:

> Marsha,
> 
>> I think your quote may be in the Copleston Annotation:
>> 
>> "The MOQ is not opposed to materialism as long is it is
>> understood that materialism is a set of ideas."
>> 
> No actually it is this one from the SODV paper:
> 
>> The bottom box shows inorganic patterns. The Metaphysics of Quality says
>> objects are composed of "substance" but it says that this substance can be
>> defined more precisely as "stable inorganic patterns of value." This added
>> definition makes substance sound more ephemeral than previously but it is not.
>> The objects look and smell and feel the same either way. The Metaphysics of
>> Quality agrees with scientific realism that these inorganic patterns are
>> completely real, and there is no reason that box shouldn't be there, but it
>> says that this reality is ultimately a deduction made in the first months of
>> an infant's life and supported by the culture in which the infant grows up.
> 
> This last sentence, properly understood, pulls together philosophical pieces
> from; philosophical realism, pragmatism, radical empiricism, and the MoQ.
> 
> No religious mysticism required for understanding.
> 
> Dave


Dave,

Oh dear,,,   

But I cannot imagine that scientific realism would be any different than 
materialism, both are a set of ideas.   I wouldn't deny experience either, 
but what we know is value patterns.  


Marsha 





 
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