[MD] Theocracy, Secularism, and Democracy
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Sun Aug 15 09:21:49 PDT 2010
On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Thomas wrote:
> Marsha,
>
>> I think your quote may be in the Copleston Annotation:
>>
>> "The MOQ is not opposed to materialism as long is it is
>> understood that materialism is a set of ideas."
>>
> No actually it is this one from the SODV paper:
>
>> The bottom box shows inorganic patterns. The Metaphysics of Quality says
>> objects are composed of "substance" but it says that this substance can be
>> defined more precisely as "stable inorganic patterns of value." This added
>> definition makes substance sound more ephemeral than previously but it is not.
>> The objects look and smell and feel the same either way. The Metaphysics of
>> Quality agrees with scientific realism that these inorganic patterns are
>> completely real, and there is no reason that box shouldn't be there, but it
>> says that this reality is ultimately a deduction made in the first months of
>> an infant's life and supported by the culture in which the infant grows up.
>
> This last sentence, properly understood, pulls together philosophical pieces
> from; philosophical realism, pragmatism, radical empiricism, and the MoQ.
>
> No religious mysticism required for understanding.
>
> Dave
Dave,
Oh dear,,,
But I cannot imagine that scientific realism would be any different than
materialism, both are a set of ideas. I wouldn't deny experience either,
but what we know is value patterns.
Marsha
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