[MD] CA 2 - an aside

[MarshaV]

On Aug 15, 2010, at 2:20 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Marsha,
> 
> "selling" marsha?  I guess I'm selling words.  Words are my money and I take
> payment in kind.

John,

I suppose this was assessed in conjunction with my story-teling comment.  


> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hey John,
>> 
>> What exactly are you selling here?  Theism?  Religion?
>> Absolute Idealism?
> 
> 
> Theism is a choice for me, but I see it as a good choice for me, and not
> for everybody, so I don't push it.
> 
> Religion, I shun and detest in all it's forms, eastern, western and
> plutonian.  If they'd make a religion for introverted anarchistic
> iconoclasts, sure, I might be tempted.  But you and I know that ain't never
> gonna happen.
> 
> Absolute Idealism, I do endorse and promote.  I see it as embracing and
> contextualizing the MoQ, that is, the MoQ as a species of Absolute Idealism;
> and it's my goal in these Annotation annotations, to demonstrate and prove
> just that.  Explicitly.
> 
> But ultimately, my goal is the same as yours, the promotion and endorsement
> and evolution of the MoQ - started by RMP and continued those "who get it".

Absolue Idealism comes in a few flavors.  Which flavor are your rooting for? 

Absolute idealism as defined by Hegel:

"But in contrast to both forms of idealism, Hegel, according to this reading, postulated a form of absolute idealism by including both subjective life and the objective cultural practices on which subjective life depended within the dynamics of the development of the self-consciousness and self-actualisation of God"  (plato.stanford.edu/entries/hegel/)

There's that 'god' word.  I don't find much value in that pattern.  Is there a direct link between absolute idealism and god?  



>> I don't get the fancy dance'n accusation?
>> Why would such tactics be required?
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha, the naive.
>> 
>> 
> 
> As to why such tactics be required,   tactics are required when you're
> trying to get a metaphysical system accepted, you tap dance your way through
> the swinging front doors, so you don't get shot right off the bat.
> 
> I'm just guessing, of course.  ask HIM.
> 
> John the guesser
> 


My list of questions would be about patterns and their nature, and the fact that 
time, space and evolution are static patterns of value.  And now I ask about the 
statement pointed to by Dave that was in the SODV paper.  My connections are 
between Buddhism and the MoQ, not any Western philosophy.   


Marsha the admirer of you storytelling except the one dependent on boobs.    








> 
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> 
>> 
>>> "Personal" sounds subjective, to me, and thus on the wrong end of the
>> horny
>>> bull.  So I'm gonna focus on the Absolute kinds of Idealism, as that's
>> the
>>> main point of my thesis of the MoQ as a species of Absolute Idealism.
>>> 
>>> And the ongoing topic at hand as well, since we end with Bradley and
>> Royce
>>> and their individual stances of Absolute Idealism.
>> 
>> 
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