[MD] MOQ/BOC

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Magnus, All.

14 Aug. :

Dan had written: 
> >But my question still stands: If social patterns are not
> >intellectual, how do we discriminate them from other patterns? As I
> >said, I am confused. Are they hard-wired into our nature?

Magnus:
> That's my kind of question. I just formulate it a bit more specific,
> such as: If it's generally accepted that it is social value that made
> people live in groups, specialize in different tasks, build villages
> and even walls around them to protect them from the biological dangers
> of the wilderness, Then why call the same things made by cells,
> gathering into groups, specialize in different tasks, and build
> protective shells around them to protect from biological danger,
> anything less? 

The cell membrane = village wall comparison is flawed because the 
higher level is not about protecting against the lower. Social morals is 
about rising above - transcending - biology's "jungle" morals and every 
single social pattern is about disciplining one's (and other people's) 
biological instincts (for the sake of the common cause)  Unless one 
looks at things from the MORAL, VALUE, QUALITY perspective the 
levels will be a mess and the borders arbitrary. 

Dan's question: 

> If social patterns are not intellectual, how do we discriminate them
> from other patterns?     

Non-plussed me. Where has he got the "social as intellectual" notion 
from. He does not speak to me so maybe you Magnus can tell - you 
say you agree with him. 


Bodvar