[MD] Horse's Ruling [MODERATOR NOTE]

Tue Aug 17 01:58:03 PDT 2010

"Sorry" would have done Bo but you are, it appears, incorrigible.

Well done Horse. Do your worst.

I owe the group an apology too ... but as Horse pointed out ... Bo's
arguments are largely personal attacks, and I responded to one such
aimed at me personally, almost a month ago. Sorry.

Ian

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM,  <skutvik at online.no> wrote:
> Horse
> I have an understanding for rules and regulations and those expelled
> this far - Squonk,  Maxwell,  Bradford - violated the normal rules of
> behavior, particularly the latter's appearance" at the MOQ Conference
> was unforgiving, but my take of  the MOQ that Pirsig - far from having
> rejected - has approached gradually, and has said "...if having quality
> will percolate ...etc." and percolated it has.  I have no idea how these
> your rules are to be complied with. If I start and end my posts with "In
> my opinion" I can manage, but not much can be said about the MOQ
> without touching on what you use so many contemptuous call-signs for
> (a beloved child has many names we say)  ZAMM conveys it and
> about half of LILA  Strange that you chose to act the security agent
> spending your day counting how many times a post contains the
> forbidden words and how many posts a day per person. I don't fathom
> why the "righteous" just can't ignore inputs that don't interest them -
> Magnus' "stacks" died quickly - but I guess it's when I point to them
> inadvertently trespassing into their own forbidden field that enrages
> them so much. I guess you have to throw me out the front door, like
> Phaedrus I refuse to slink out by the back one.
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> On 16 Aug 2010 at 22:02, Horse wrote:
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>>   [FROM THE OWNER AND ADMINISTRATOR OF MOQ_DISCUSS]
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>> Imagine this sound
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>> kerrr-ACK
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>> Do you know what that sound is?
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>> On 15/08/2010 17:12, skutvik at online.no wrote:
>> > <SNIP>
>> > Thanks Platt, this put things in the right perspective,  I feel a
>> > bit sorry for Horse being caught with his pants down and his liberal
>> > attitude so badly tainted.
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>> It's the sound of the camel's back breaking. And here it goes again:
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>> > Anyway, the SOL refuses to go away for the obvious reason
>> > that it IS the idea that the MOQ is founded on and all threads on
>> > the MOQ will end there.
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>> So for the last 10-12 years or so I've been very reasonable, very
>> liberal and very much inclined to discuss my decisions relating to the
>> running of MD and my reward for this has been to have a few members of
>> MD at various times shove shit in my face. So it stops here. And it
>> stops now.
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>> I made what I thought was a reasonable request in a reasonable and
>> polite way and what I get is Bo being insulting, piss-taking and
>> derogatory. In addition to this, he also continues to ply the same
>> shit that I've asked him to cease in the same way that he has
>> continued to do so since the last time I asked him. Obviously making a
>> request (polite or otherwise) as the administrator and owner of MD is
>> not the way to deal with those on the list who think I'm some sort of
>> fucking sap!
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>> As has been pointed out in the past, this is my house and my rules so
>> from now on when I make a request that someone stops whatever
>> behaviour I feel is inappropriate then that behaviour stops.
>> Immediately. If it doesn't then you're out - no argument, no second
>> warning. Re-instatement will only occur when an apology to myself and
>> the forum is received, as well as an undertaking that the behaviour
>> will not be repeated. If it is repeated then removal will be
>> permanent.
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>> If you think it's amusing or clever to take the piss out of me,
>> criticize me, accuse me of censorship or generally make unpleasant,
>> derogatory or insulting remarks for doing my best to do my job (and do
>> it properly and well) as administrator of this list then you will
>> discover that you won't be participating in MD discussions any longer.
>> Similarly, if you want to play stupid word games with me over one of
>> my decisions or try and provoke or antagonise me for doing my job as
>> administrator you'll be removed without any warning whatsoever.
>> Hopefully, if you've read this far, you'll get the gist of what I'm
>> saying - My House, My Rules.
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>> If you don't like any of the above then now is the time to re-consider
>> whether you want to continue to participate in these discussions. If
>> you don't feel that you can continue under these conditions then
>> leave.
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>> You used to have an administrator who tried to be reasonable and fair
>> and tried to take everybody's opinion into account but, unfortunately,
>> due to the abuse of a few members (not just Bo) that person has now
>> retired and you have me in his place.
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>> So Bo, I hope you're reading this because here's what you're going to
>> do:
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>> If you want to discuss the SOL/SIM/SOLAQI (or whatever new acronym you
>> think up) then you make it _very_ _very_ clear that it is your
>> interpretation. You do not imply that the SOL has anything to do with
>> Pirsigs version of the MoQ. You do not state that the SOL
>> interpretation is the one true version of the MoQ - or state anything
>> similar. You do not interject into a conversation with your SOL
>> nonsense. You start a new thread. You do not post more than twice a
>> day with regard to the SOL interpretation.
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>> The above also goes for those who support your position.
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>> I would also greatly appreciate others not provoking Bo or his
>> supporters as this is unfair and unreasonable. I, and the majority
>> here, are sick to death of this incomprehensible and pointless
>> nonsense, so the less that you peddle it the happier most people will
>> be.
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>> I'm sorry that it's come to this as it's not the way I would have
>> preferred but that's the way it is from now on.
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>> Thank you all for your time
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>> Horse [Administrator]
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>> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring
>> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank
>> Zappa
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