[MD] Horse's Ruling [MODERATOR NOTE]

Tue Aug 17 04:32:56 PDT 2010

  Hi Ian

Yep - Bo is incorrigible. And I didn't even need a 'Sorry'. Just an 'OK' 
(sulky or otherwise) would have been sufficient. But I didn't really 
expect anything of the sort.
Be that as it may, if Bo wants to play games then he can go out the 
front door as he wishes. I have my best army issue, size 10, 
steel-toecapped hobnailed boots all shined up and ready for immediate use.

Cheers

Horse

On 17/08/2010 09:58, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> "Sorry" would have done Bo but you are, it appears, incorrigible.
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> Well done Horse. Do your worst.
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> I owe the group an apology too ... but as Horse pointed out ... Bo's
> arguments are largely personal attacks, and I responded to one such
> aimed at me personally, almost a month ago. Sorry.
>
> Ian
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM,<skutvik at online.no>  wrote:
>> Horse
>> I have an understanding for rules and regulations and those expelled
>> this far - Squonk,  Maxwell,  Bradford - violated the normal rules of
>> behavior, particularly the latter's appearance" at the MOQ Conference
>> was unforgiving, but my take of  the MOQ that Pirsig - far from having
>> rejected - has approached gradually, and has said "...if having quality
>> will percolate ...etc." and percolated it has.  I have no idea how these
>> your rules are to be complied with. If I start and end my posts with "In
>> my opinion" I can manage, but not much can be said about the MOQ
>> without touching on what you use so many contemptuous call-signs for
>> (a beloved child has many names we say)  ZAMM conveys it and
>> about half of LILA  Strange that you chose to act the security agent
>> spending your day counting how many times a post contains the
>> forbidden words and how many posts a day per person. I don't fathom
>> why the "righteous" just can't ignore inputs that don't interest them -
>> Magnus' "stacks" died quickly - but I guess it's when I point to them
>> inadvertently trespassing into their own forbidden field that enrages
>> them so much. I guess you have to throw me out the front door, like
>> Phaedrus I refuse to slink out by the back one.
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>> On 16 Aug 2010 at 22:02, Horse wrote:
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>>>    [FROM THE OWNER AND ADMINISTRATOR OF MOQ_DISCUSS]
>>>
>>> Imagine this sound
>>>
>>> kerrr-ACK
>>>
>>> Do you know what that sound is?
>>>
>>> On 15/08/2010 17:12, skutvik at online.no wrote:
>>>> <SNIP>
>>>> Thanks Platt, this put things in the right perspective,  I feel a
>>>> bit sorry for Horse being caught with his pants down and his liberal
>>>> attitude so badly tainted.
>>> It's the sound of the camel's back breaking. And here it goes again:
>>>
>>>> Anyway, the SOL refuses to go away for the obvious reason
>>>> that it IS the idea that the MOQ is founded on and all threads on
>>>> the MOQ will end there.
>>>>
>>> So for the last 10-12 years or so I've been very reasonable, very
>>> liberal and very much inclined to discuss my decisions relating to the
>>> running of MD and my reward for this has been to have a few members of
>>> MD at various times shove shit in my face. So it stops here. And it
>>> stops now.
>>>
>>> I made what I thought was a reasonable request in a reasonable and
>>> polite way and what I get is Bo being insulting, piss-taking and
>>> derogatory. In addition to this, he also continues to ply the same
>>> shit that I've asked him to cease in the same way that he has
>>> continued to do so since the last time I asked him. Obviously making a
>>> request (polite or otherwise) as the administrator and owner of MD is
>>> not the way to deal with those on the list who think I'm some sort of
>>> fucking sap!
>>>
>>> As has been pointed out in the past, this is my house and my rules so
>>> from now on when I make a request that someone stops whatever
>>> behaviour I feel is inappropriate then that behaviour stops.
>>> Immediately. If it doesn't then you're out - no argument, no second
>>> warning. Re-instatement will only occur when an apology to myself and
>>> the forum is received, as well as an undertaking that the behaviour
>>> will not be repeated. If it is repeated then removal will be
>>> permanent.
>>>
>>> If you think it's amusing or clever to take the piss out of me,
>>> criticize me, accuse me of censorship or generally make unpleasant,
>>> derogatory or insulting remarks for doing my best to do my job (and do
>>> it properly and well) as administrator of this list then you will
>>> discover that you won't be participating in MD discussions any longer.
>>> Similarly, if you want to play stupid word games with me over one of
>>> my decisions or try and provoke or antagonise me for doing my job as
>>> administrator you'll be removed without any warning whatsoever.
>>> Hopefully, if you've read this far, you'll get the gist of what I'm
>>> saying - My House, My Rules.
>>>
>>> If you don't like any of the above then now is the time to re-consider
>>> whether you want to continue to participate in these discussions. If
>>> you don't feel that you can continue under these conditions then
>>> leave.
>>>
>>> You used to have an administrator who tried to be reasonable and fair
>>> and tried to take everybody's opinion into account but, unfortunately,
>>> due to the abuse of a few members (not just Bo) that person has now
>>> retired and you have me in his place.
>>>
>>> So Bo, I hope you're reading this because here's what you're going to
>>> do:
>>>
>>> If you want to discuss the SOL/SIM/SOLAQI (or whatever new acronym you
>>> think up) then you make it _very_ _very_ clear that it is your
>>> interpretation. You do not imply that the SOL has anything to do with
>>> Pirsigs version of the MoQ. You do not state that the SOL
>>> interpretation is the one true version of the MoQ - or state anything
>>> similar. You do not interject into a conversation with your SOL
>>> nonsense. You start a new thread. You do not post more than twice a
>>> day with regard to the SOL interpretation.
>>>
>>> The above also goes for those who support your position.
>>>
>>> I would also greatly appreciate others not provoking Bo or his
>>> supporters as this is unfair and unreasonable. I, and the majority
>>> here, are sick to death of this incomprehensible and pointless
>>> nonsense, so the less that you peddle it the happier most people will
>>> be.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that it's come to this as it's not the way I would have
>>> preferred but that's the way it is from now on.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your time
>>>
>>> Horse [Administrator]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> Zappa
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