[MD] Doug Renselle & Language

[Krimel]

> [Magnus]
> I don't think we can avoid it. I think it has already happened. As soon
> as we started getting tired of explaining what "pattern" "dynamic" and
> "static" means in MoQese, we simply stopped explaining them and assumed
> everyone knew what we meant by those terms. And that happened just a
> month after starting the list and has been going on ever since.
>
> [Krimel]
> I think a very real problem is that after lo' these many years there is no
> real consensus on what even those three terms mean. I fear that fixing,
> kludging and rearranging levels is just adding a new coat of paint or a
new
> frill to the frou-frou on our head boat. Devising our own private "prayer
> language" as Doug has done, in my view is a quantum leap forward in
> frou-frou formation.

[Magnus]
I can agree it's a problem that we use our own version of those, and 
other, terms. But what is the alternative? I mean, we only have two 
books and there simply aren't that good definitions in those books to 
get even those three terms right. So whether we're "devising" our own 
language explicitly or it just happens to grow implicitly is the choices 
we have. We can't avoid it altogether.

[Krimel]
My personal preference is to rely on common usages for common terms. In the
spirit of being able to explain complex ideas to children. Furthermore I
thing the use of specialized language just tends to obscure rather than
highlight our meanings. Further furthermore I don't think the MoQ is
complicated enough to warrant a specialized vocabulary.

[Magnus}
And what is frou-frou?

[Krimel]
Frivolous ornamentation, like smokestacks on a diesel power vessel.

[Magnus]
And regarding quantum leap. That's a tiny, minuscule, step. But that was 
perhaps your intention?

[Krimel]
Actually I meant that as a pun on Doug's creation of quantum speak. But I
think it also means a jump from one electron shell to the next without
passing through the intervening space. These seems an odd sort of "atoms and
void" effect that contributes to quantum weirdness. For your purposes that
jump is a kind of absolutely discrete boundary line but even there what you
have is an electron "cloud".