[MD] Social level for humans only

[Frank Booth]

What an interesting thread.

MoQ 101 states that higher level patterns are built of lower level patterns.

(a) Ant-patterns and ant-biological-structures confirm this.

OR

(b) Ant "behavior" and ant "colonies" suggest that we ought to lower the social 
bar "considerably".

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The evidence is consistent with both (a) and (b).

Hmmm ...



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From: Magnus Berg <McMagnus at home.se>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 11:41:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only

Craig

On 2010-08-19 18:17, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:
> [Magnus]
>> It is the social value that makes ants carry all that food and
>> other stuff to the hill, if each>  ant was ruled by its biological
>> values, he would run off and care only for himself.
> 
> No, the ant's behavior is biologically inherited. You're re-inventing
> problems the MoQ (by identifying the social level for humans only)
> has already solved.

No, I'm just not putting stuff in the biological level that doesn't
belong there. Pirsig mentions lust, greed, senses of taste, smell,
sight, etc. Do you see anything about self-sacrifice for the common good like 
ants do?

The fact that it's biologically inherited is totally irrelevant. Much of our 
non-biological humanity is also biologically inherited, such as mother-instinct, 
compassion, etc.

Your MoQ may have solved some problems, but in the wake you have created loads 
of other problems.

    Magnus




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