[MD] Consciousness & Moq.

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Sat Aug 21 05:54:26 PDT 2010





Here's another hint, Dave.  Try looking for what's been stated about 'conceptualization', but be sure to spell it 'conceptualisation' within Ant's papers, which requires the British spelling.





On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:19 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> Dave,
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> Search these for a start: ZMM, LILA, LILA's CHILD, Ant's PhD, Ant's MOQ Textbook, the paper 'The Role of Evolution, Time and Order in Pirsig's "Metaphysics of Quality"' and the 'Copleston Annotations'.  
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> Marsha 
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> On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:09 AM, MarshaV wrote:
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>> On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:47 AM, David Thomas wrote:
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>>> Marsha,
>>>>> Dave said:
>>>>> Based on what Pirsig calls "MoQ", What commentary, analysis, or conclusions
>>>>> does he make about "consciousness" or "conscious experience"?  Is he right?
>>>>> How do you know?
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>>>> Hi Dave,
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>>>> I will assume you are not asking what kind of bounded thing it is?  Or as a
>>>> bounded thing, what is its essence?  It seems to me what you are calling
>>>> "consciousness" within the MoQ is the process of static patterns of value
>>>> interacting within a field of dynamic quality.  It's that process.
>>>> 
>>> The question I asked, is in green above. Where do you read "essence" or
>>> "bounded thing"? I am not "calling" it anything other than "consciousness"
>>> or "conscious experience." Does Pirsig address these words and if he does
>>> what does he say about them?
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>>> Dave 
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>> Dave,
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>> Are you to lazy to do a search yourself?  
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>> Marsha  
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