[MD] Social level for humans only

[david buchanan]

Krimel said to dmb:
What you are taking as "snarkiness" and rudeness might also be interpreted at frustration at your lack of engagement with the issues raised. In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find an example of one of my posts that relied exclusively on the snarky. 


dmb says:

Well, I'm not going to debate the ration of snark to substance in your posts. Again, my so-called lack of engagement is in direct proportion to the emptiness and/or irrelevance of your complaints and accusations. Take the example you cited: "Rather than engage the issues raised he slaps on the label SOM and "Presto" no need to read, no need to engage the issue, time to just sit back and feel self-righteous."

See, that's not hurtful to me. It's too empty and dumb to be hurtful. And that's what's wrong with your snark. There's no substance to it, so much so that I can only wonder what you're actually referring to. Remember, I asked you to reproduce the offending sentences so I'd know where it directed? And I asked yo do that that because your complaints seems unrelated to anything I said? Well, you did that to an entire post and the meaning of every single comment I made was mangled beyond all recognition. Your complaint simply bear no relation to anything real. As a result, your complaints are 99% free of content. 

The notion that SOM is just some label I slap on stuff to avoid the issue, for example, is completely ridiculous. Rejecting SOM is central to the MOQ and to radical empiricism and yet you think you can offer critiques of this stuff without understanding that part of it. It's just not so, and we both know that you still have yet to grasp this issue. That's why it comes up so much. You are going to continue to misread me and Pirsig and James and just about everything else in philosophy that been written in the last century or so until you understand how and why SOM is a problem.

Tell you what. If you can demonstrate anything like a genuine comprehension of subject-object metaphysics and it's relation to James or Pirsig, I'll take your complaints completely seriously from now on. 

Until then I shall continue to believe that you're just a bullshitter who's playing some kind of game. You've never given me any reason to believe that you understand the first thing about this business of philosophy.