[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:25 AM, David Thomas wrote:

> On 8/22/10 4:15 AM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> Marsha:
>> Patterns existing "outside our concepts of them" seems to make it a SOM issue,
>> but I could be wrong.  Do patterns exist as independent entities?
> 
> Depends. If you want to looked at them universally then, no. All patterns
> are parts of smaller and larger patterns such that ultimately all is one.
> 
> But this is not very helpful idea when trying to make breakfast.

I don't know about you, buy I don't metaphysically scramble eggs.
I just fix them.


> The belief  that supping on the concept of a egg is the same as dining on
> "independent entity" egg in your refrigerator, will eventually will lead to the
> demise of the pattern Marsha.  

I fix eggs, chop wood and carry water.


> Pragmatism would say, "Yes, that it is reasonable thing
> to believe their really is an "outside world out there" until a better way
> of understanding that experience comes along."

I don't even make a determination if an egg is pragmatically 
believable, or not, while I am preparing one.  


> But there hasn't been one to date. It leaves open the possibility
> that all is illusion, but suggests it would not be prudent to act as
> if this is true.

While discussing the MoQ, it is most appropriate to question the nature 
static patterns of value.  If static patterns of value present all that can 
be conceptualized, where 'outside our concepts' do they exist?  


 
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