[MD] Social level for humans only

[MarshaV]

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On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:27 PM, X Acto wrote:

> must be nice to have a justification to behave
> anyway you wish in lieu of some hard reflection.
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> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 5:15:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only
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> Hey Ron, at night before I retire I consider some of my thoughts 
> for the day, and mostly find them to be: not this, not that.  
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> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:45 PM, X Acto wrote:
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>> 
>>   
>> There is no "you" in my mind
>> only bitter rhetoric and bullshit hypocritical opinions
>> 
>> Having the nerve to chastize someone elses illusions
>> and projections as dillusional while hoisting your own
>> as truth.
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>> what an asshole
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>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:34:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only
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>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:32 PM, X Acto wrote:
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>>> 
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>>> Marsha said:
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>>> 
>>> John,  
>>> 
>>> I'm not talking about what was said while quilting in a group, and I 
>>> not talking about your psychological gender nonsense either.
>>> I'm talking about the power men used through the Church of Religion 
>>> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within 
>>> society.  Women were not even permitted to vote until the last 
>>> century.  Women can project valuable and interesting ideas too if 
>>> they were not for centuries prohibited from doing so on threat of 
>>> death.
>>> 
>>> Your crack about 'neti, neti' is pure foolishness.  It represents more 
>>> than you understand, but of course, I get only what you project a
>>> woman might think.  Probed and understood?  Fuck probed and 
>>> understood.  Probe and understand your own illusions instead 
>>> of erecting a tower of babel.  
>>>   
>>> 
>>> Ron:
>>> Talk about hypocritical bullshit!  
>>> "  The power men used through the Church of Religion 
>>> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within 
>>> society." illusion after illusion, projections of projections.
>>> 
>>> Bitter and small.
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>> Marsha: 
>> Yes, Ron, I'm bitter and small in your mind.  
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>>> On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:49 PM, John Carl wrote:
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>>>> Marsha said,
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>>>> 
>>>>> Agree, but I don't know that women are privileged to be in the position to
>>>>> intellectualize (define) what men are like.
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>>>> 
>>>> From the dawn of time, women have sat in circles and done exactly that,
>>>> Marsha.  And they probably get a lot closer to the truth of the matter than
>>>> men would find comfortable.
>>>> 
>>>> While men, when they get together, freely admit they don't understand women.
>>>> So undoubtedly there's differing approaches.
>>>> 
>>>> For one example, it seems that men try much harder to put themselves out
>>>> there.  Men are outwardly projectionistic, thrusting their ideas and
>>>> thoughts out at the world.  Whereas women seem to relish being inward and
>>>> secretive and mysterious, going all "not this, not that" or "fuck your
>>>> questions" to avoid being probed and understood.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan Bern's question, "do you like me, or are you ignoring me?" is a question
>>>> that takes balls to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Big balls.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5t2Qr0q80
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