[MD] Speed of Lighting, Roar of thunder...

[MarshaV]

Clinging babies creating a wall to protect them from 'I don't know.'    




On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:09 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:

> I like Pink Floyd, Marsha, especially the specials, like this one , one of
> the best ever (Roger Waters outside the Floyd)
> 
> he allows Katie Kissoon to take the lead covered by him and "lefty", best
> impression ever
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWoyZixx1l4
> 
> My second love is the real live version of Wish you were here, acoustic
> played by Waters/gilmour, sure you can find it on tube
> 
> 2010/8/25 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I like the Beatles with Pink Floyd video.
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>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> Poetry beats sarcasm - 'cos Ian says so ;-)
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "Cold hearted orb that rules the night
>>>> Removes the colours from our sight
>>>> Red is grey and yellow white
>>>> But we decide which is right
>>>> 
>>>> And which is an illusion"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Sarcasm 1 Content 0 ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, and:  Nice try.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:16 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ah well, it's Ian who decides when an issue is too contentious
>>>>>>> to consider a wikipedia quote.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So all I have to say is:  that's interesting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha asked of Krim ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao?  Anyone besides you think
>>>>>>>>> that this is so?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [IG] Yes, clearly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> First, evolution has changed considerably since the days
>>>>>>>>> of Darwin's publications, and the evolution of species is quite
>> different than
>>>>>>>>> the evolution of static patterns.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [IG] Clearly again, the model of evolution has itself evolved as
>> both
>>>>>>>> Darwin and Pirsig would predict and continues to do so. I see no
>>>>>>>> difference in the evolutionary processes .... I regularly use the
>> word
>>>>>>>> "species" to denote any static pattern. Species are "special" in the
>>>>>>>> sense of being distinct, long-lived over multiple generations, and
>>>>>>>> therefore self-sustaining, repairing / reproducing over many
>>>>>>>> generations .... in all levels above the organic (not just
>>>>>>>> biological).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Clearly Darwin didn't have the benefit of  a Taoist monism at the
>>>>>>>> heart of his thinking .... GOF phyisicalist scientific objectivism
>>>>>>>> only .... but see above. Neither Darwin nor Pirsig, nor any of us
>>>>>>>> (their interpreters) have it 100% right, that would be terminal. I
>>>>>>>> tend to be less critical of that fact, but I wouldn't argue for
>>>>>>>> perfection.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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