[MD] Social level for humans only

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

I do not fully understand your question , Marsha

2010/8/27 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>

>
> On Aug 27, 2010, at 2:46 PM, David Thomas wrote:
>
> > On 8/27/10 1:23 PM, "MarshaV" <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Dave T,
> >>
> >>         Adrie had written:
> >>         Hence the reason why som cannot be the perfect umbrella for the
> >> intellectual
> >>         level?
> >>
> >> This doesn't sound like simply comparing and contrasting.  It sounds
> like a
> >> final judgement.
> >>
> > And how did I respond?
> >
> >> [Dave before]
> >> To some degree RMP, and maybe all of science, over stigmatizes SOM.
> Given
> >> how little was known about the workings of the brain and its
> relationship to
> >> the body, the intuition to make this distinction has led to significant
> >> progress in many areas of science. So the theory is not quite perfect,
> shit
> >> none of them every are. Usefulness is about as good as we get.
> >
> > Dave:
> > If you look at the history of philosophy at any point in time, with any
> > particular philosopher or school, they were more WRONG than right. But
> out
> > of this overtime better and better understanding of reality has evolved
> to
> > the benefit of all. I understand you may think I spend all my time
> finding
> > ways to bad mouth RMP. But guess what? I wouldn't be to the point that I
> > could criticize him without him leading me into the topic in the first
> place
> > and showing me a map. For someone with such a negative view of static
> > patterns your fixation with Pirsig's and Bo's is hard to fathom.
>
>
> Marsha:
> I do not have a negative view of static patterns.  I do, though, recognize
> them
> as patterns, conventional, and not some independent "reality."
>
> And as I indicated, my post was directed at Adrie's comment.
>
>        Adrie had written:
>        Hence the reason why som cannot be the perfect umbrella for the
> intellectual
>        level?
>
> ----
>
>
> If you are comparing and contrasting Chalmers' ideas against RMP's
> concerning consciousness, what are you using as RMP's ideas; he's
> said very little directly?
>
>
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