[MD] Social level for humans only

[Krimel]

[Platt]
To those with an open mind who would like to learn more about what DMB is
talking about I recommend an article by Charles Birch entitled, "Why I
Became a Panexperientialist" at:

[Krimel]
Truth is I didn't get much farther than the first few sentence when I found
this:

"From my undergraduate years through my post-graduate years I was surrounded
by materialists. These were scientists whose thought was dominated by the
Newtonian worldview."

There is really no need to go on. Almost all of the ranting a raving that
goes one about this, especially from you, dmb, Ham and the like is ranting
about the Newtonian world view.

Science has moved well beyond this and given those who care to look, a
breathtaking picture of probabilistic interaction of determinism without
prediction. Newton's causal billiard balls ought to be long gone but they
are not. They lingers as the unquestioned assumptions of most people because
they apply well to our everyday interactions in the same way Euclidian
geometry works for carpenters. Because of their enormous heuristic value
most people rarely see cause to go farther.

But the Newtonian world view is unsatisfactory. When it undergirds your
system of beliefs, it produces the feeling of dissatisfaction Birch talks
about.  Personally I don't think a retreat into superstition, animism,
panpsychic supernaturalism is the road out of the mess. I think instead the
concepts derived from systems, theory, probabilistic models, chaos and the
many things I have talked about over the past five years do a much better
job, are more comprehensive, aesthetically beautiful, emotionally satisfying
and conform more comfortably immediate experience. The MoQ as you, dmb and
AWGI is nothing more than this retreat into the Mythos. 

I believe the MoQ shows us a better way: Out of a cacophony of sensory
clatter (Quality) and we detect patterns of relative certainty (SQ) against
a background of the uncertainty (DQ). We produce meaning from the
meaningless.