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[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

Well, Krimel, lets talk a little bit.

First , been reading one of your other postings today, very long, funded,
composed, showing you are a differentiated thinker.
More than 90 percent quality, just to frame it , and then , in this posting
you deviate to a simplified model, or proposed model.
The interactions you do , on the list , as i judge them are attempts to own
a product , a niche of your own, a field of exploration.
You already have a product , Krimel, a field,..
The field is your interest in differentiated things , qualitytopics,
science,honorable things , like asking WHY,?...
So i'm honoring you by stating you are the opposite of an idiot.

i do not know wat is triggering you sometimes in your negative events,
supressing your own quality.


so far for this.

Now , maybe you are asking yourself  as for why i did, or do not engage in
Chaostheory / determinism.

 There are a number of reasons.

I do not believe in chaos, there is no chaos, chaos is a pattern of infinite
differentiation.
Determinism came upon chaostheory, just to get rid of the chaosidea.
Determinism is mostly used by creationists to avoid the
paths of GR, R, QP,EVOLUTIONTHEORY, etc , the path of proof , or the pathway
of good hypothetical models.

Determinism try's to avoid this;..."BARYOGENESIS, LEPTOGENESIS," leading to
the hypothesis that matter is formed by the universe itself, it is unproven
until today, but some evidence is coming up, like c/p violation,
For creationists, God created matter from chaos, ...not baryogenesis , as in
preference for patterns or patterned atoms, or states of preference.

Determinism is good , in math, in physiks, in science , but not if it is
used to stay away from the hypothesis that the universe is creating matter,
patterns of preference,not if it is used to downscale to the bible.

Same goes for quantum physiks , all evidence is showing nowedays , that
there are patterns of preference, they are called ,
pointing states, extremely complicated , far beyond me.But i can understand
that matter is formed , an the parts of it , the partikels are showing
preferences, ;........you get the point , this moves further away from the
precence of the creator.

Chaos, i do not believe in it , honestly, nor in the creator.
Determinism is low-entry to please the audience.

In Science , Krimel, in physiks, uncertainty is a certainty, a proven
certainty.

models are attempts to observe the order hidden under the cloths of what we
expierience as chaos.

In conclusion, did i just make all your points of view undiscussable, well,
no.
There is and there are shitloads of terra incognita to be found and discover
within the eveloppe of the forum.
all cases are here, and yes even determinisme,chaos, but i do not think you
want to walk this path with me.

you mentioned earlier , these items to pursue for what , 4 or 5 years now?,
okay, dont be shy to abandon them.
nobody will ask.

you'r a differentiated thinker , Krimel,with interests in many field and a
wide-scala of visions, you do not have to search for a product.
you can handle all products...and you can enter all products,...why ditch in
simplifications?

Ok, Think about it.ask yourself what can i tell him about uncertainty?can
you format the cake? i will eat him if you can,or leave it behind, i will
not ask again. no prob.

I like to  talk about cephalopods a well, will step on nobody's foot.

Greetzz. Adrie




2010/8/28 Krimel <Krimel at krimel.com>

> [Adrie]
> Hi Krimel, to be honest, it sounds like Fossilism to me
>               return to chaos as solution to build your model from scratch,
> this is throwing sand in the bull's eye's
>               think i was reading this example somewere.
>
> 666-),dont be shy to react..
>
> [Krimel]
> Spoken like a true Newtonian.
>
> But notice that all models are conceptual schema for extracting degrees of
> certainty from the chaotic background of uncertainty.
>
> Models are attempts to create order.
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