[MD] Able to change well.

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Tue Aug 31 05:16:53 PDT 2010



> [Platt}
> Such as "Some things are better than others."
>
> Hello Platt,
> This is very interesting. I had not thought of this as a pattern before.
> I'm not sure if this is a pithy remark so you may have to explain. I was
> hoping for a bit more depth when thinking about being able to change well.
>

I'll let Pirsig add a bit more depth: "Here Quality succeeds where Bradley’s
Absolute and Hegel’s Being and the Buddhist Nothingness and the Hindu
Oneness and the theists’ God and Allah and you-name-it; all of them fail.
For quality, no faith is required because there is no way you can disbelieve
that there is such a thing as quality. You cannot conceive of or live in a
world in which nothing is better than anything else."

As for archetypes, you'll have to ask someone more familiar with Jung than
me.

Regards,
Platt



Hello Platt,
Thank you.
I sometimes find one line posts confusing especially if i'm not sure of the context of the response.
But you have cleared it up. I actually thought you were in some sense criticising some things are better than others.
But you were not as it turns out.


I don't like Robert Pirsig's rhetoric. If you are not careful it can block your thinking. I find that his books are full of it.
For example, let's have a look at what your quote says?
Pirsig states that quality succeeds were a list of others fail. Indeed it does. But, and this is the dodgy bit, he then concludes the list
with a catch all. This may, or may not depending on your alertness, at least temporarily lead you to believe that quality
is unique.
But it isn't unique.
Quality is synonymous with terms that are used in philosophy to describe the best.
Arte, Excellence, Virtue etc. Good is a common one. These do not fail. It is common for a theist for example, when
pushed into describing their views, that what they want to describe is Excellence.


There is a connection with Jung in this regard but i shall not trouble you with it if you would rather not.


Thank you
Ade





 



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