Marsha, > Marsha prev: > > >> > >> Maybe after many millennium of being told he is a sinner, man needs > >> time to be comfortable and learn to trust his own innate sense value. > >> > >> > John: > > Yes, maybe, but who's going to tell him what that is? > > Marsha: > > Not a higher Father... > > John: And certainly not his mommy! John the weaned