[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

[MarshaV]

Arlo,

I have no interest in anything you have to say.  Your hyperbole makes you 
worthless for discussing anything.  


Marsha 
 



On Dec 1, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Marsha]
> No Arlo, I doubt that you want other than to make a fool of me.
> 
> [Arlo]
> No, Marsha, I want to understand why you think your ideas about Intellect=SOM are better than Pirsig's, what does this view offer you that Pirsig's does not? Does it explain the world better? Does it offer better hope for improving things?
> 
> Along the way, some things am curious about. You said, "science has the subject-object defect, as do all Intellectual static patterns of value...". Do you think any other level has a "defect"? Do you think "defect" is even the right word, since you think this is an inherent flaw in these patterns of value.
> 
> Also, Pirsig had written, "The defect is that subject-object science has no provision for morals.  ...Now that intellect was in command of society for the first time in history, was THIS the intellectual pattern it was going to run society with?". Given that this "defect" is endemic of all intellectual patterns in your view, where Pirsig is calling for a non-s/o intellectual pattern to replace "subject-object science", what intellectual pattern do you think should replace "subject-object science" as the intellectual pattern that should be in command of society, since they are all s/o (in your view), what differences would you this making?
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