[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Mark]
I would have to say that S/O is the product of reflection.  This is where  the
intellectual level  in its static form comes in.  That is, rules of governance.
 In its dynamic form, it is free from S/O.

[Arlo]
Are you suggesting there are Dynamic intellectual patterns of value and static
intellectual patterns of value? 

I think its more clear to say there is Dynamic Quality, and all stable patterns
of emanating from this are what we consider "static patterns of value". 

Given this, the response to DQ can be inorganic, biological, social or
intellectual. 

[Mark]
So the question would be, do we let the static dominate the dynamic?  I would
say, that this will never work.

[Arlo]
Would you say this is true of the social-biological boundary as well, that
static social patterns should not dominate biological patterns of value?

[Mark]
Decisions made by the intellect are dynamic.  Learning is dynamic.  The Academy
is static due to its dogma. 

[Arlo]
Adherence to "dogma" is not (1) exclusive to the Academy and (2) not indicative
of the Academy. 

If we abolish the Academy, what do you propose would take its place? Do we
teach every possible theory or idea that comes along as equally valid? Do we
more than a thousand times fold increase the amount of reading material by
having every possible "article" by anyone published? How do you propose we
discriminate? Do we at all? Should "Loose Changers" and "flat-earthers" be
given spots in the curriculum? 

If YOU were suddenly President of Academy University, what changes would you
put into place.

[Mark]
We do not want MOQ to go there.

[Arlo]
Well, you, Marsha and Platt do not, but Pirsig, me, Ant, DMB, Horse, and many
others do. 

[Mark]
I wouldn't say it is defective, I believe it is misinterpreted.

[Arlo]
Are any of the other levels "misinterpreted"? 

[Mark]
Provision??  I can only say that intellect should be moral; morality does not
have to be intellectual.

[Arlo]
Intellectual patterns are moral patterns. "Morality" does not have to be
"intellectual", it can be social, biological or inorganic. But intellectual
patterns are morally superior to these others.

[Mark]
This is the traditional Western view of Truth over Quality; we endeavor to
change this through MOQ and put Quality over Truth.

[Arlo]
No one has ever proposed that Quality is subordinate to Truth. Indeed, I doubt
anyone you are pointing to with this even thinks there is a "capital-T Truth",
just provisionally truths as revealed via experience.