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Hi Adrie,

I was talking metaphysics, not physics.  The reality as you state below
creates more than the sum of its parts.  That is human creativity.  A
literal world is fine, but abstract thought provides another view.

Cheers,
Mark

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:40 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The moon was always there.
> It is a false observation to believe your eye's or your senses.
> The other observables/observers are keeping the moon within reality.
> Think about the gravity induced by the moon,reflecting in the tides here on
> earth,
> The moon is the parent of this tidal effect , and by this tidal
> precence,the
> moon stays in the range of observable reality,indirect , but not lesser.
>
> Takes away the mysticism, keeping the reality,pragmatism,radikal empiricism
> greetz, Adrie
>
>
> 2010/12/2 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>
>
> > Hi Marsha,
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:15 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > I understand.  Buddhism offers rationality AND meditation to understand
> > > and experience for yourself.  I believe what you are pointing to is
> that
> > > Buddhism is empty, Emptiness is empty.  Buddhism, in its rationality
> > > (wisdom),
> > > does not escape the reification process.   Buddhism, too, is a pointing
> > to
> > > the Moon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Marsha
> > >
> > >
> > > [Mark]
> > Yes, for communication and teaching, which was one of Buddha's clinging
> > qualities, things much be transformed into words.  Such words are fingers
> > pointing.  For whatever reason I don't like the Moon analogy (any more).
> >  It
> > implies that there is a moon.  I believe more that there are fingers
> > pointing, nothing more.  But then, I may change my mind tomorrow.  If
> this
> > moon is enlightenment, then we are already on the moon.  Maybe we should
> > turn the lights on to realize it.  Maybe its fingers pointing to the
> light
> > switch.  Maybe the moon is pointing to the fingers on the light switch.
>  Or
> > the Moon is created by the switching of a light.  OK, now I am confused.
> >  I've got blisters on my fingers!
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > >
> >
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