[MD] Stuck on a Torn Slot

118 ununoctiums at gmail.com
Fri Dec 3 21:15:12 PST 2010


Hi Craig,

If what you say is true, then where does the biological/inorganic
break occur?  It would seem from your assessment that a bacteria would
be inorganic.  Please explain the difference between a house and a
congress.  No need to bring Pirsig in, this can be your personal
stand.  It is interesting to see all the perspectives on this.  I have
insight into the inorganic and biological levels.  Others may have
better insight into the social level.

A better question would be:  What is similar between all the divisions
in levels?  What is the specific criteria which divides them, not each
one, but in general?

Mark

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:
> Hi Craig
> As far as I'm aware bees and prairie dogs don't employ architects, obtain
> building permission, employ bricklayers, plumbers etc.
> Building a house or the construction of a housing estate here in the UK
> involves all of this and is part of a social pattern.
>
> Horse
>
> On 04/12/2010 00:30, craigerb at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> [Horse}
>>>
>>> The building of a house or group of houses would be a social pattern, as
>>
>> per human social behaviour to stay
>>  >  warm and protected - the building of
>> nests, as per avian behaviour is to provide a place to lay eggs etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nope.  IMHO this misses Pirsig's insight into the social level.
>> Just as a beehive or network of prairie dog burrows is not a social level
>> pattern, building a house or group of houses is not a social pattern, even
>> if done in co-operation with other humans.
>> Nor is human behaviour to stay warm and protected social, rather than
>> biological.
>> Only the building of a social institution should count as social, e.g.,
>> ownership laws, legal liability, etc.
>> Craig
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