[MD] Thus spoke Lila

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Dec 6 01:08:26 PST 2010



Hi Mark,

I am thinking of the Ultimate Truth as the Buddhist's Emptiness, or 
the MoQ's Quality, a Dynamic Quality empty of patterns.   

Marsha 



On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:45 AM, 118 wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> In my opinion, there is no ultimate truth in MOQ, there is Quality.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> And that is why it is said, I suppose, and it seems to me,
>> the way to approach the Ultimate Truth is by discovering
>> what is false.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:08 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, perfect , Marsha, bulls eye's.
>>> LILA is our mirror.
>>> 
>>> 2010/12/5 MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings:
>>>> 
>>>> I still think the best understanding of REALITY is found in Lila's
>>>> words(LILA, Chapter 14): "...I'm whatever your questions turn me into. You
>>>> don't see that. It's your questions that make me who I am. If you think I'm
>>>> an angel then that's what I am. If you think I'm a whore then that's what I
>>>> am. I'm whatever you think. And if you change your mind about me then I
>>>> change too. So whatever Richard tells you, it's true. There's no way he can
>>>> lie about me."    -    Reality is whatever you think it is (your patterns),
>>>> there's no way you can lie about it, and if you change your understanding of
>>>> reality, then reality changes too.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here are something by David Bohm that says the same thing:
>>>> 
>>>> "Reality is what we take to be true.  What we take to be true is what we
>>>> believe.  What we believe is based upon our perceptions.  What we perceive
>>>> depends upon what we look for.  What we look for depends on what we think.
>>>> What we think depends on what we perceive.  What we perceive determines
>>>> what we believe.  What we believe determines what we take to be true.  What
>>>> we take to be true is our reality."
>>>> 
>>>>     (Mathieu Ricard & Trinh Xuan Thuan, 'The Quantum and the Lotus: A
>>>> Journey to the Frontiers Where Science and Buddhism Meet',p.121)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ___



 
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