[MD] Reifying carrots

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Dec 6 02:26:23 PST 2010


I see.  The Buddhist emphasis on a strategy to end suffering by 
seeing things as they really are and developing compassion 
would be the better approach.  Nursing the ego is not?   



On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:50 AM, 118 wrote:

> Yes, there are happy drugs of course.  But this whole notion of
> creating a structure for how we think and behave I find ridiculous.
> How can one person tell another how they are thinking?  It is all
> projection.  It is also a spiritual dead end.  It cannot survive the
> inner nature of man.  It completely blocks growth of any kind.
> 
> Certainly the aspect of confessionals at a psychiatrists office
> followed by advice are useful, but this massive academic explanation
> of the way things are in our heads is nonsense.  This was already done
> thousands of years ago.  Now we claim it is science therefore we must
> abide by it.  Baloney.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:46 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Mostly pill pushers, but not all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:44 PM, 118 wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha,
>>> 
>>> Yes, open in a way, but very directed by the concept of psychology.
>>> This is a construct that is used to control and confuse.  In today's
>>> world it is very prevalent, and our saviors are now psychologists.
>>> What a racket!
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 12:46 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean.  My point was the influence of Eastern
>>>> thought.  James seems to have been open to new ideas and quite
>>>> dynamic.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:53 PM, 118 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Marsha,
>>>>> Yeah, James was pretty smart until he got into psychology.  Then he
>>>>> just became another hack.  What a waste.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:21 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Buddhism planted the seeds in James:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> James's biography clearly states he had read and reread
>>>>>> Upanishad and Buddhist texts, texts that belonged to his
>>>>>> father.  This would have been around 1870.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's a list of some of the books:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    Modern Buddhist - Alabaster
>>>>>>    Religion des Buddha (Vol.1) - Koeppen
>>>>>>    Le Buddhisme - Taine
>>>>>>    Weltauffas der Buddhisten - Bastian
>>>>>>    Brahma Somej: Four Lectures - Sen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>    (William James: In the Maelstrom of American Modernism
>>>>>>        by Robert D. Richardson)
>>>>>> 
>> 
>> 
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