[MD] Moq_Discuss Digest, Vol 61, Issue 62

[Jan-Anders]

Hi John

I appreciate your open mind. I can see that just the word Quality has 
different interpretation among us. What Quality stands for. I try to 
hold it at the point where it first appeared in ZAMM. In RMP's terms of 
amployment at the university of Bozeman as teacher in rethorics. The 
teaching "should have quality"...and no further explanation about how 
this concept Quality should be defined.

> Jan Anders,
>
> Without common sense and the right to be stupid the human society would be
>> >  boring as hell. Truth don't exist without lies. Low quality...
>> >
>> >
> I agree.  Truth also does not exist without confusion and ambiguity.  That's
> because it's a process, not a thing.  Or as Ellul puts it, in his *Humiliation
> of the Word*:
>
> "Meaning is uncertain;  therefore I must constantly fine-tune my language
> and work at reinterpreting the words I hear.  I try to understand what the
> other person says to me.  All language is more or less a riddle to be
> figured out; it is like interpreting a text that has many possible
> meanings.  In my effort at understanding and interpretation, I establish
> definitions, and finally  a meaning.  The thick haze of discourse produces
> meaning.
>
>
> All of intellectual life (and I use the word "all" advisedly) even that of
> specialist in the most exact sciences, is based on these instabilities,
> failures to understand, and errors in interpretation, which we must find a
> way to go beyond and overcome.  Mistaking a person's language keeps me from
> "taking" the person--from taking him prisoner.
>
>
> We are in the presence of an infinitely and unexpectedly rich tool, so that
> the tiniest phrase unleashes an entire polyphonic gamut of meaning, The
> ambiguity of language, and even its ambivalence and its contradiction,
> between the moment it is spoken and the moment it is received produce
> extremely intense activities.  Without such activities, we would be ants or
> bees, and our drama and tragedy would quickly be dried up and empty.
>
>
> Between the moment of speech and the moment of reception are born symbol,
> metaphor and analogy.
>
> Through language I lay hold of two completely different objects.  I bring
> them together, establishing between them a relationship of similarity or
> even identity.  In this manner I come to know this distant, unknown object,
> through its resemblance.
>
>
> It becomes intelligible to me, because through language I have brought it
> near this other one that I know well.  Tis an astonishing process, and
> logically a foolish one.  It is obviously an indefensible operation, yet
> there it is, utterly successful, utterly enlightening. "
>
This process, or event, has a quality that is the sum of three classes 
or dimensions, an energy class, a form class and a class of expression 
which meets other events as an impression. These three are independent 
from each other.

The energy or mass dimension is about how much it is. How many words in 
an essay or how many letters in a word.
The form class is what combination of words is used. In which order the 
letters are put.
The expression class is the class of freedom that says that any order is 
free to be used but every one carry its special expression.

Real quality is a balance of the three classes. Where is it, what it is, 
what does it say? Impossible to calculate by intellect. You must use 
your feelings to tell if its art or barely stupid. You must, sort of, 
tune in to it. Therefore it can be intelligent and more fun to not use 
your intelligence. Without any chemicals of course. No fooling...

Jan-Anders