[MD] spirituality

[John Carl]

Now this, Marsha, makes a great deal of sense to me, placing chaos as a
necessary element of reality, without making it reality's value.

 an integral part of reality, but not creative of reality.

That Buddha... It's not just that he was a smart guy, it's also very
significant that he got a lot of very smart people to follow him and keep
explaining away.

Me like very much.

J

    "In Buddhism, neither pure chance nor necessity can be accepted; they
> are two extremes, and neither of them stands up to analysis.  No effect can
> be causeless.  On the contrary, there are so many causes that it's
> impossible to come up with a linear, deterministic analysis of causality.  "
>